Hi, I’m running Knime 5.4.3 - with all Extensions - on a MacBook (M3). After upgrading to a newer OS - macOS Sequoia v15.4 - I noticed a series of Warnings/Errors (see below) at start-up and could not find the ‘AI’ package in the ‘KNIME Labs’ anymore. So I decided to go for a fresh installation of KNIME 5.4.3 and the base istallation (without extension) showed no Warnings/Errors in the Console at start-up. Installing the complete ‘KNIME Labs Extension’ worked (no errors during installation) - but at start-up, the Warnings/Errors showed up again (see below, the first lines of the log)! Is there any known Problem with this OS Version for Mac? Thx! Erich Log file is located at: /Users/sngwa/sWork/knime-workspace/.metadata/knime/knime.log INFO KNIMECorePlugin Setting console view log level to INFO ERROR WelcomeAPEndpoint Calling welcome page endpoint failed:PKIX path building failed: sun.security.provider.certpath.SunCertPathBuilderException: unable to find valid certification path to requested target WARN DefaultPythonGateway Python standard output: WARN DefaultPythonGateway Python standard error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/__init__.py", line 24, in <module> from . import multiarray File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/multiarray.py", line 10, in <module> from . import overrides File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/overrides.py", line 8, in <module> from numpy.core._multiarray_umath import ( ImportError: dlopen(/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/_multiarray_umath.cpython-311-darwin.so, 0x0002): Library not loaded: @rpath/libgfortran.5.dylib Referenced from: <D37BED4E-7F75-3467-A281-7E7E316989C9> /Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libopenblas.0.dylib Reason: tried: '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/usr/local/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file), '/usr/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file, not in dyld cache) During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py", line 130, in <module> from numpy.__config__ import show as show_config File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/__config__.py", line 4, in <module> from numpy.core._multiarray_umath import ( File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/__init__.py", line 50, in <module> raise ImportError(msg) ImportError: IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ THIS FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE! Importing the numpy C-extensions failed. This error can happen for many reasons, often due to issues with your setup or how NumPy was installed. We have compiled some common reasons and troubleshooting tips at: https://numpy.org/devdocs/user/troubleshooting-importerror.html Please note and check the following: * The Python version is: Python3.11 from "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/python" * The NumPy version is: "1.26.4" and make sure that they are the versions you expect. Please carefully study the documentation linked above for further help. Original error was: dlopen(/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/_multiarray_umath.cpython-311-darwin.so, 0x0002): Library not loaded: @rpath/libgfortran.5.dylib Referenced from: <D37BED4E-7F75-3467-A281-7E7E316989C9> /Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libopenblas.0.dylib Reason: tried: '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/usr/local/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file), '/usr/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file, not in dyld cache) The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/plugins/org.knime.python3.nodes_5.4.1.v202501291500/src/main/python/_node_backend_launcher.py", line 62, in <module> import knime._arrow._table as kat File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/plugins/org.knime.python3.arrow_5.4.0.v202411121140/src/main/python/knime/_arrow/_table.py", line 52, in <module> import pyarrow as pa File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pyarrow/__init__.py", line 65, in <module> import pyarrow.lib as _lib File "pyarrow/lib.pyx", line 24, in init pyarrow.lib File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py", line 135, in <module> raise ImportError(msg) from e ImportError: Error importing numpy: you should not try to import numpy from its source directory; please exit the numpy source tree, and relaunch your python interpreter from there. WARN DefaultPythonGateway Python standard output: WARN DefaultPythonGateway Python standard error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/__init__.py", line 24, in <module> from . import multiarray File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/multiarray.py", line 10, in <module> from . import overrides File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/overrides.py", line 8, in <module> from numpy.core._multiarray_umath import ( ImportError: dlopen(/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/_multiarray_umath.cpython-311-darwin.so, 0x0002): Library not loaded: @rpath/libgfortran.5.dylib Referenced from: <D37BED4E-7F75-3467-A281-7E7E316989C9> /Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libopenblas.0.dylib Reason: tried: '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/usr/local/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file), '/usr/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file, not in dyld cache) During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py", line 130, in <module> from numpy.__config__ import show as show_config File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/__config__.py", line 4, in <module> from numpy.core._multiarray_umath import ( File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/__init__.py", line 50, in <module> raise ImportError(msg) ImportError: IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ THIS FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE! Importing the numpy C-extensions failed. This error can happen for many reasons, often due to issues with your setup or how NumPy was installed. We have compiled some common reasons and troubleshooting tips at: https://numpy.org/devdocs/user/troubleshooting-importerror.html Please note and check the following: * The Python version is: Python3.11 from "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/python" * The NumPy version is: "1.26.4" and make sure that they are the versions you expect. Please carefully study the documentation linked above for further help. Original error was: dlopen(/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/_multiarray_umath.cpython-311-darwin.so, 0x0002): Library not loaded: @rpath/libgfortran.5.dylib Referenced from: <D37BED4E-7F75-3467-A281-7E7E316989C9> /Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libopenblas.0.dylib Reason: tried: '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/usr/local/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file), '/usr/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file, not in dyld cache) The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/plugins/org.knime.python3.nodes_5.4.1.v202501291500/src/main/python/_node_backend_launcher.py", line 62, in <module> import knime._arrow._table as kat File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/plugins/org.knime.python3.arrow_5.4.0.v202411121140/src/main/python/knime/_arrow/_table.py", line 52, in <module> import pyarrow as pa File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pyarrow/__init__.py", line 65, in <module> import pyarrow.lib as _lib File "pyarrow/lib.pyx", line 24, in init pyarrow.lib File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py", line 135, in <module> raise ImportError(msg) from e ImportError: Error importing numpy: you should not try to import numpy from its source directory; please exit the numpy source tree, and relaunch your python interpreter from there. WARN DefaultPythonGateway Python standard output: WARN DefaultPythonGateway Python standard error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/__init__.py", line 24, in <module> from . import multiarray File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/multiarray.py", line 10, in <module> from . import overrides File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/overrides.py", line 8, in <module> from numpy.core._multiarray_umath import ( ImportError: dlopen(/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/_multiarray_umath.cpython-311-darwin.so, 0x0002): Library not loaded: @rpath/libgfortran.5.dylib Referenced from: <D37BED4E-7F75-3467-A281-7E7E316989C9> /Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libopenblas.0.dylib Reason: tried: '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/usr/local/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file), '/usr/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file, not in dyld cache) During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py", line 130, in <module> from numpy.__config__ import show as show_config File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/__config__.py", line 4, in <module> from numpy.core._multiarray_umath import ( File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/__init__.py", line 50, in <module> raise ImportError(msg) ImportError: IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ THIS FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE! Importing the numpy C-extensions failed. This error can happen for many reasons, often due to issues with your setup or how NumPy was installed. We have compiled some common reasons and troubleshooting tips at: https://numpy.org/devdocs/user/troubleshooting-importerror.html Please note and check the following: * The Python version is: Python3.11 from "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/python" * The NumPy version is: "1.26.4" and make sure that they are the versions you expect. Please carefully study the documentation linked above for further help. Original error was: dlopen(/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/_multiarray_umath.cpython-311-darwin.so, 0x0002): Library not loaded: @rpath/libgfortran.5.dylib Referenced from: <D37BED4E-7F75-3467-A281-7E7E316989C9> /Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libopenblas.0.dylib Reason: tried: '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/core/../../../../libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/bin/../lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (duplicate LC_RPATH '@loader_path'), '/usr/local/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file), '/usr/lib/libgfortran.5.dylib' (no such file, not in dyld cache) The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/plugins/org.knime.python3.nodes_5.4.1.v202501291500/src/main/python/_node_backend_launcher.py", line 62, in <module> import knime._arrow._table as kat File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/plugins/org.knime.python3.arrow_5.4.0.v202411121140/src/main/python/knime/_arrow/_table.py", line 52, in <module> import pyarrow as pa File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/pyarrow/__init__.py", line 65, in <module> import pyarrow.lib as _lib File "pyarrow/lib.pyx", line 24, in init pyarrow.lib File "/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/bundling/envs/org_knime_python_llm/lib/python3.11/site-packages/numpy/__init__.py", line 135, in <module> raise ImportError(msg) from e ImportError: Error importing numpy: you should not try to import numpy from its source directory; please exit the numpy source tree, and relaunch your python interpreter from there. ERROR PurePythonNodeSetFactory Failed to parse Python node extension at path '/Applications/KNIME 5.4.3.app/Contents/Eclipse/plugins/org.knime.python.llm_5.4.3.v202503051153/src/main/python'. Could not connect to the Python process. WARN DefaultPythonGateway Python standard output: WARN DefaultPythonGateway Python standard error: Traceback (most recent call last): List item

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