Knime under Mavericks

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Hi all,

 

I upgraded my mac to Mavericks and having some issues with Knime.

After the upgrade, java was gone, so had to reinstall through the Oracle site. I downloaded the JDK version and installed it.

trying to start KNIME gives me the error that it needs the JRE 1.6SE

So I played around with my variables and did:

export JAVA=/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.7.0_45.jdk/Contents/Home/jre/bin/java 

and now Knime starts, but gives me the following Warning:

The Java version currently active on your system (1.7.0_45) is known to cause problems and is not supported by KNIME under MacOS X. Please see http://www.knime.org/faq#q9999 for details and how to fix it.
Do you want to start KNIME anyway and continue on your own risk?

But I cannot find anything on this page about 1.7.0_45... Any help would be appreciated.

Geoffrey

 

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I thought KNIME bundled the JRE it needs anyway? 

Have you tried installing the Java 1.6 JRE? Old versions should be available on the oracle website.

Cheers

Sam

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Hi Geoffrey, 

We do not yet support KNIME on the mac under java 7.  I haven't checked this ina  few months, but there was a missing class which broke all of our dialogs.  How does KNIME under java 7 look for you?  When I updated to Mavericks I was prompted to download java 6 and after a couple of exta clicks, everything just worked.  Is unsetting your JAVA env and using Java 6 for hnow an option?

FWIW, we have tried to packaged the JRE in the .app, but ran into some technical problems with it. 

Regards, Aaron

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KNIME just looks ok under Java 7. Ran some of the datamining examples without an issue. So I was worried for 'hidden' issues when the popup warnedme.

Maybe good to update the text on: http://www.knime.org/downloads/knime/macosx because it states that Java 1.7 is a requirment (which made me think that it was just fine)....

Regards,

 

Geoffrey

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Can you try to configure some dialogs and see if they behave properly?

Thanks a ton in advance. 

Regards, Aaron

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Will try later tonight and include some screenshots

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Unfortunately that does not work... Throwing the following error at me:

 

ERROR     NodeContainerEditPart     The dialog pane for node 'File Reader 2:12' has thrown a 'SWTError'. That is most likely an implementation error.

ERROR     NodeContainerEditPart     The dialog pane for node 'X-Partitioner 2:0:2' has thrown a 'SWTError'. That is most likely an implementation error.
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I was able to click the install now button in the pop up and KNIME runs fine again now.... (using good old Java 6 JRE)

 

 

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Yes, unfortunately that is what I expected.  This is a known issue that we may have to wait for java 8 in order to fix. 

Sorry for the hassle!

For those interested:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=374199

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I spent too much time already on this so my head is spinning a bit (this being a waring about the maybe somwhat confusing post)

So I updated to Maverics too (couldn't wait :)

Now to the situation:

I have a eclipse_knime_2.8.1 installation (from before the update) where I imported our hcs-tools the scripting integrations and the knip nodes. When running it all in debug mode, there is no problem; knime starts up all the plugins are there, the log says hi.

However, I also pulled a new copy directly from our the repository (after the os update), created a new workspace and tried to run in debug mode again and then I get a lot of errors of this kind

ERROR     Thread-1 RepositoryManager     Node de.mpicbg.tds.knime.hcstools.preprocessing.OutlierRemovalFactory' from plugin 'de.mpicbg.tds.knime.hcstools' could not be created: Can't load factory class for node: de.mpicbg.tds.knime.hcstools.preprocessing.OutlierRemovalFactory The corresponding plugin bundle could not be activated!

... well pretty much for every node in the plugin.

So I tried the fix from the faq, only that this one does not really apply to a development environment.
I also set the 1.6 jdk in the preferences, included it in the manifest (execution environment) but this did not really help either.
I checked the logs (as suggested in one of the many other threads) and the only suspect thing was :

!MESSAGE Plug-in 'org.knime.workbench.ui' contributed an invalid Menu Extension (Path: 'view' is invalid): org.knime.workbench.ui.openLogfile

I am running out of clues. So my hope is that a more experienced eclipse user than me could point me in the right direction.
If you have any clue where to search for the bug I would be greateful.

Felix

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The Eclipse log (.metadata/.log) should show you why your plug-in cannot be activated. This is usually because of missing dependencies or error when running the plug-in's activator (if it has any).

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I posted the only suspect log entry from workspace/.metadata/.log, doesn't give me any useful information...

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Did you look into the runtime workspace of the launched application and not your development workspace?

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ok now we are on the same page I think.

There is a ClassNotfoundException for pretty much every <plugin>BuldleActivator. Funny thing is in the manifest, the Meta-mousover takes you to the BundleActivator class...

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Aaron, in the thread you posted a link to there seems to be a solution for this issue now, since the release of java 7u40.
A minor change to the code is needed though.